LETS NOT FORGET that the shooter JUST TURNED 18 on May 16th. That was a week and a HALF ago. How did he acquire THAT MUCH ARSENAL in just 10 days? Also, how did he know how to operate the rifle efficiently when he couldnt shoot a rifle by himself prior to 10 days ago? You'd be SURPRISED how difficult it is for someone who has NEVER handled an AR to load it correctly, rack the bolt back and change mags in a high-stress situation. I have a feeling the EffBeeEyee trash had a helping hand in this matter.
Was this HS dropout from broken family and seemingly mental health issues groomed, funded, and activated to commit this heinous child massacre? I suspect so.
Based on the maps and street level view, from the funeral home the officers should've been able to clearly see the open door of the school, and would've known it was open several minutes before Ramos entered (3 to 9 minutes, depending on which timeline you use). They could've called the school and told them to have someone shut and lock that door, and to check all others. They could've taken action to draw his attention away from the school. Could've driven over to the door, putting the car between Romos and the door, and shut it themselves. There are many actions they could've taken, but it seems they did nothing at all. None of it adds up.
A mix of incompetence, with a dash of cowardice, combined with an evil godless killer. 19 cops cowering in a hallway for an hour while children and teachers were being shot and were bleeding out. Take the cops' guns away, because there's a good probability that after the videos go public, they will find it hard to live with their guilt and disgrace.
Let me help clear up somethings and maybe explain some other.
1 This event was totally avoidable. Should have never happened.
2 Uvalde is a small town with limited resources. They do not have plastic explosives to blow doors, cameras to put under doors etc. Most of that stuff is in TV shows.
3 The outside door should have been closed and locked.
4 The door to the class room is a steel door the opens into the hall, hard to breach, especially not knowing if there are kids up against it on the inside. It also should have been locked.
5 There are 5 or 6 school guards and 7 or 8 different campuses. They cant be everywhere. There are 3 to 4 lockdowns of the schools a week due to high speed chases of human traffickers from the open border. They tried to lock down the High School the day of the shooting and the students would not comply, said not another chase.
6 What his mother said need to be examined closely.
7 Border Patrol has a large office in Uvalde, It covers a large part of the open border.
8 Closest mental help is a one an half hour drive away.
All in all, a sad situation that should never have happened.
I’m with you on everything but the plastics/cameras thing. While I agree they wouldn’t have that…MOST departments don’t. At least not immediately available for (what should be) an immediate breach.
Where I disagree is that there are other options that someone should have had: either the initial 3 cops in or the 4 others that arrived moments later. They should have had at the very least a shotgun with a slug, which can effectively and rather safely been used to breach. Perhaps a Hallagan Tool?
The SRO that arrived moments later didn’t have a Master Key to the school? I believe it’s Texas law that schools have to have a master key in a lockbox outside the school.
I find it incredibly bizarre it took so long to make entry on dual rooms with windows peering in. If the room had only one door, I get it. Fish in a barrel. But the fact it has two adjoined rooms means you can enter simultaneously. And with an overwatch outside, you could even breach the room he’s not in and coordinate an assault.
Not complicated at all. At least Scott Peterson was all by himself. These guys had up to 19 in the hallway.
you could shoot the door lock and hinges at that distance. It will penetrate a steel or wooden door. spalling? yes but at that stage you do what you can to get in the room.
Remember 10/1/17 in Vegas? Remember how the local sheriff's timeline was suddenly "corrected" two days later when the Feds took over the investigation? Remember how answers were promised regarding motive and details of how such carnage could be accomplished by one 64 year old man from a far-away hotel room? When was the last time the FBeeEye followed through on an investigation that you were interested in? Epstein? Hunter? HRC emails/server? Nov 2020? - for starters. Dirty cops anyone? TX shooting timeline and critical gaps is starting to smell like some of the rest.
I'm amazed at hoe effectively the Vegas shooting has been flushed down the memory hole.
No news on the motive or history of the shooter. Is the lack of reporting because of the mainstream media's contempt for country music fans or something more nefarious?
MBS was in LV, NV that night LARPing as a .civ, his enemies found out about it, required a grand cover-up (and lots of death) to coverup the fact the see-eye-aye and m0ss@d foiled the plot and got him out of there. Paddock the (arms dealing) patsy imo
Two students were, in that same district, but they weren't Ramos...reportedly. That could change. It just seems bizarre that they would have been in the same grade as Ramos and here he is...
That's one of the best analysises of the timelines I've seen. One thing, one of the surviving kids said one of the teachers went to lock the classroom door and Ramos came in, said "goodnight" and shot her.
Wow...I hadn't seen that...I can't imagine anyone is allowed near the children yet with press credentials, but I guess that could leak somehow. My questions is why did it take so long to lock the doors? They had several minutes...between 5 and 12, from when this started. It only takes 3 or 4 seconds to lock a door. He shot from right outside the building numerous times...not just down the street at the funeral home.
This is a conspiracy. Teacher props open the door just at the precise time needed for entry. Then, keeps it open. Why weren't the classroom doors locked while class is in session. Hasn't any of these cops watched any cop TV series, where they use a plastic explosive to blow the lock off the door? How about the cops that entered the school to get their own children and bring them to safety? This whole thing stinks.
Seems they could have used a battering ram to get into the classroom, throw a disorienting flash grenade, and go in with 19 police guns blazing at the perp. A portable camera, or a mirror could have tipped them off where Ramos was in the room before the assault. They had a whole stinking hour to plan... Incompetence or Cowardice?... or both.
Don't forget: the classroom had TWO entries as each classroom was adjoined by a middle door, so either 111 or 112 could have been used to "breach" and engage the shooter. They also had the east facing wall that was full of windows that could have been used for observation as well as a well placed shot.
two double doors ? they closed and locked on inside, they couldn't breach ? then why not attach a rope to door handle( smash windows or make a whole in the wall to get a straight shot at door. then attach rope to door handle, and yank that freeking door off the hinges. this guys world would end quickly as he'd be confused, by then he'd be dead . JUST SAYING. 19 officers in hallway doing nothing ?????? doesn't add up !!!
Not two double doors...two doors to the two rooms, but they were adjoined by a common wall and a bathroom. So they had access to both sides if they breached either door.
You mention windows in the room. Ground floor windows of single story building. Why did no cops shoot into the room through the windows at the gunman? Could there have been more than one person shooting? It has happened before in staged shootings. Without truthful facts, this could be possible.
How could he have been going fast enough to snap front n rear axles on an f-150 (it looked like one) but not set off the drivers air bag ?? that would have slowed him down, or just the impact would have.
I'm not saying no one was shot. I do notice that no one was shot and merely injured. No wounded; no one rushed to the hospital & pronounced dead there; no one rushed to the hospital & reported "in critical condition" or "stable" or anything else. At Uvalde, "shot" = "dead". That is ... not normal.
The reason none of it adds up - because school officials, the police, the FBI, the Marshall's Service, and social media are all in CYA mode for their bumbling incompetence and cowardice.
Bottom line - an unemployed teenage psycho dropout with a junkie mother, absent father, and a pickup truck somehow managed to secure 8 grand to subsidize a mass shooting, and broadcast his intent. He also passed a background check when buying the firearms.
The "gun lobby", the NRA, and law-abing gun owners had absolutely nothing to do with any of it.
There are so many pertinent questions, presently without answers, that must be resolved before this matter can be understood. This incident is very much more than a simple statement of, "Kid buys guns, kid kills kids, kid get killed." First, the starting point is the issue of "instrumentality." 1.) The myriad questions surrounding the question, "Why did he decide that he must kill elementary-aged children, in mass?" 2.) Having no overt employment to provide a substantial source of savings, where did the funds come from; issue a search warrant for bank account(s). 3.) Determine his overt & covert employment or affiliations with sources of income. This one point would establish a substantial workload for any investigator(s). If there was no overt employment, what were his covert employment opportunities? Was he in the illegal drug trade? Cartel? Drug mule? Street sales? Deliveries of product from cartels to lower-level gangs, or gang to gang? Product transport in Grannies' truck? (His cellphone/online friends may know.) OR was he involved in Human Trafficking? (Obvious question based on his lack of humanity and compassion for children.). ETC., almost to infinity. 3.) Once the question of employment/funds is established then (Most likely simultaneously.) the questions concerning his accumulation of cash and then equipment must be answered. It should not be assumed that he paid for the weapons with his own funds, his own debit card or own credit card (CC is doubtful due to lack of provable employment.). It must be established that he used only his own funds and that no other party was involved, i.e., he did not use another's debit/CC card. I would not be surprised to find that he either had no funds in the bank, or just before the weapons purchase, he deposited a large amount of cash he had been accumulating/hiding, or was given, which opens a door that would probably provide few answers since the door would lead to a room full of secrets/conspiracies (Of course conspiracies are relegated to the tinfoil hat brigade.).
I am merely trying to show some of the starting-point questions that will need (must) to be answered --- and each question & answer will create more if a thorough investigation is desired --- to just get us to the point of understanding "How did the weapons, the ammunition, the variety of equipment get into his hands and did he have assistance." Of course, other investigators would be pursuing issues surrounding, individuals, his friends, his associates, the grandmother, the mother and her bizarre statement, where's the father, grandfather, etc., etc., etc. At this point the investigation, again, if the authorities desire a fully document account of the Who, What, Where, When & How, questions surrounding the incident, is only at the very beginning with no visible ending point in site. But I am going to assume that no LE entity is going to dedicate the resources needed to fully conduct an complete investigation, and why would they, you are probably thinking? It must be determined if others provided any assistance, guidance or influence. I immediately see two obvious questions and will then end this summary: Who propped open the door, and was he in any manner influenced by anyone (A conspiracy.) to target the school and the innocent children? Yes, schools are soft targets but why do these insane individuals determine that children must be slaughtered, almost sacrificially? We cannot ask the deceased shooter, which appears very convenient, "Were you influenced or encouraged by another human being to commit this atrocity or was there a demonic influence?
Sadly, in the end, this incident is probably going to be left as a simple matter of "Kid buys guns, kid kills kids, kid get killed."
I apologize for getting carried-away. I am closing by saying that I felt that CannCon provided a solid summary of the timeline, that does have puzzling aspects to it, and I was wondering, not knowing your age, if possibly your ultimate calling should not be in LE. However, one individual working as an independent investigative journalist, could make great contributions to society as a whole. But how you make a living pursuing that calling is something I have no understanding of. I will close with an encouraging good luck to you CannCon, you have a good mind that you should exercise and share. My best regards to you. (I spent little time in editing, so please excuse any grammatical errors or confusing passages. As we age we become lazy.)
This was an excellent comment! I try to read them all (on all platforms). There are a lot of questions...some are starting to get answered. Ali Bradley (Youtube and Facebook) sat down with the grandfather of Ramos. He had some good insights. The truck was the grandma's and Ramos did not have a license. He was not on drugs. He quit his job at Wendy's a month ago or so and was helping him with HVAC work at his company. He slept on the floor for a week or so at a time because his mom, down the street, had some random guy staying around that seems like a drug dealer turned boyfriend?
Thanks for the encouragement! I was a US Marine and wanted to be a cop, but decided to go into this instead. You can find more of my work at CannCon.Locals.com and Rumble.com/CannCon.
DON'T FORGET VEGAS!! WE NEVER GOT ANY ANSWERS. OUR D.C. GOVT. IS INVOLVED.
Have been thinking the same.
I haven't but please, never go full CAPS LOCK, ok (boomer)?
LETS NOT FORGET that the shooter JUST TURNED 18 on May 16th. That was a week and a HALF ago. How did he acquire THAT MUCH ARSENAL in just 10 days? Also, how did he know how to operate the rifle efficiently when he couldnt shoot a rifle by himself prior to 10 days ago? You'd be SURPRISED how difficult it is for someone who has NEVER handled an AR to load it correctly, rack the bolt back and change mags in a high-stress situation. I have a feeling the EffBeeEyee trash had a helping hand in this matter.
Youtube...unfortunately...It's all readily available on the net and the kid was a hermit essentially.
You can, and should be able to, buy ammo & magazines without an age restriction
Was this HS dropout from broken family and seemingly mental health issues groomed, funded, and activated to commit this heinous child massacre? I suspect so.
Where is person who propped open door?
Based on the maps and street level view, from the funeral home the officers should've been able to clearly see the open door of the school, and would've known it was open several minutes before Ramos entered (3 to 9 minutes, depending on which timeline you use). They could've called the school and told them to have someone shut and lock that door, and to check all others. They could've taken action to draw his attention away from the school. Could've driven over to the door, putting the car between Romos and the door, and shut it themselves. There are many actions they could've taken, but it seems they did nothing at all. None of it adds up.
A mix of incompetence, with a dash of cowardice, combined with an evil godless killer. 19 cops cowering in a hallway for an hour while children and teachers were being shot and were bleeding out. Take the cops' guns away, because there's a good probability that after the videos go public, they will find it hard to live with their guilt and disgrace.
Let me help clear up somethings and maybe explain some other.
1 This event was totally avoidable. Should have never happened.
2 Uvalde is a small town with limited resources. They do not have plastic explosives to blow doors, cameras to put under doors etc. Most of that stuff is in TV shows.
3 The outside door should have been closed and locked.
4 The door to the class room is a steel door the opens into the hall, hard to breach, especially not knowing if there are kids up against it on the inside. It also should have been locked.
5 There are 5 or 6 school guards and 7 or 8 different campuses. They cant be everywhere. There are 3 to 4 lockdowns of the schools a week due to high speed chases of human traffickers from the open border. They tried to lock down the High School the day of the shooting and the students would not comply, said not another chase.
6 What his mother said need to be examined closely.
7 Border Patrol has a large office in Uvalde, It covers a large part of the open border.
8 Closest mental help is a one an half hour drive away.
All in all, a sad situation that should never have happened.
I’m with you on everything but the plastics/cameras thing. While I agree they wouldn’t have that…MOST departments don’t. At least not immediately available for (what should be) an immediate breach.
Where I disagree is that there are other options that someone should have had: either the initial 3 cops in or the 4 others that arrived moments later. They should have had at the very least a shotgun with a slug, which can effectively and rather safely been used to breach. Perhaps a Hallagan Tool?
The SRO that arrived moments later didn’t have a Master Key to the school? I believe it’s Texas law that schools have to have a master key in a lockbox outside the school.
I find it incredibly bizarre it took so long to make entry on dual rooms with windows peering in. If the room had only one door, I get it. Fish in a barrel. But the fact it has two adjoined rooms means you can enter simultaneously. And with an overwatch outside, you could even breach the room he’s not in and coordinate an assault.
Not complicated at all. At least Scott Peterson was all by himself. These guys had up to 19 in the hallway.
you could shoot the door lock and hinges at that distance. It will penetrate a steel or wooden door. spalling? yes but at that stage you do what you can to get in the room.
door locks could have been shot off versus waiting on a "key". why no breach attempt at windows or precision shot into room from windows??
Remember 10/1/17 in Vegas? Remember how the local sheriff's timeline was suddenly "corrected" two days later when the Feds took over the investigation? Remember how answers were promised regarding motive and details of how such carnage could be accomplished by one 64 year old man from a far-away hotel room? When was the last time the FBeeEye followed through on an investigation that you were interested in? Epstein? Hunter? HRC emails/server? Nov 2020? - for starters. Dirty cops anyone? TX shooting timeline and critical gaps is starting to smell like some of the rest.
So true. So, so true. Vegas was one of the most obvious. Way too much private footage of the event showing evidence of multiple shooters
I'm amazed at hoe effectively the Vegas shooting has been flushed down the memory hole.
No news on the motive or history of the shooter. Is the lack of reporting because of the mainstream media's contempt for country music fans or something more nefarious?
MBS was in LV, NV that night LARPing as a .civ, his enemies found out about it, required a grand cover-up (and lots of death) to coverup the fact the see-eye-aye and m0ss@d foiled the plot and got him out of there. Paddock the (arms dealing) patsy imo
Salman? Interesting theory. Had to consult urban dict on LARP.
I read that Ramos had been arrested in 2018 for saying he was going to shoot up a school..!!!
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If so, he was already on the radar..!!!!
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That teacher who propped open the door has blood on their hands..!!!!
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Should be charged..!!!!
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Two students were, in that same district, but they weren't Ramos...reportedly. That could change. It just seems bizarre that they would have been in the same grade as Ramos and here he is...
That's one of the best analysises of the timelines I've seen. One thing, one of the surviving kids said one of the teachers went to lock the classroom door and Ramos came in, said "goodnight" and shot her.
Wow...I hadn't seen that...I can't imagine anyone is allowed near the children yet with press credentials, but I guess that could leak somehow. My questions is why did it take so long to lock the doors? They had several minutes...between 5 and 12, from when this started. It only takes 3 or 4 seconds to lock a door. He shot from right outside the building numerous times...not just down the street at the funeral home.
One of the big questions I have as well. A lot of this just doesn't make any sense.
There are many many witnesses, inside the bldg and out; likely many of the students had camera phones too. SWHTF
This is a conspiracy. Teacher props open the door just at the precise time needed for entry. Then, keeps it open. Why weren't the classroom doors locked while class is in session. Hasn't any of these cops watched any cop TV series, where they use a plastic explosive to blow the lock off the door? How about the cops that entered the school to get their own children and bring them to safety? This whole thing stinks.
Seems they could have used a battering ram to get into the classroom, throw a disorienting flash grenade, and go in with 19 police guns blazing at the perp. A portable camera, or a mirror could have tipped them off where Ramos was in the room before the assault. They had a whole stinking hour to plan... Incompetence or Cowardice?... or both.
Don't forget: the classroom had TWO entries as each classroom was adjoined by a middle door, so either 111 or 112 could have been used to "breach" and engage the shooter. They also had the east facing wall that was full of windows that could have been used for observation as well as a well placed shot.
two double doors ? they closed and locked on inside, they couldn't breach ? then why not attach a rope to door handle( smash windows or make a whole in the wall to get a straight shot at door. then attach rope to door handle, and yank that freeking door off the hinges. this guys world would end quickly as he'd be confused, by then he'd be dead . JUST SAYING. 19 officers in hallway doing nothing ?????? doesn't add up !!!
Not two double doors...two doors to the two rooms, but they were adjoined by a common wall and a bathroom. So they had access to both sides if they breached either door.
Both, but ultimately it's more sinister than that.
You mention windows in the room. Ground floor windows of single story building. Why did no cops shoot into the room through the windows at the gunman? Could there have been more than one person shooting? It has happened before in staged shootings. Without truthful facts, this could be possible.
Incredible....all of it.
How could he have been going fast enough to snap front n rear axles on an f-150 (it looked like one) but not set off the drivers air bag ?? that would have slowed him down, or just the impact would have.
I'm not saying no one was shot. I do notice that no one was shot and merely injured. No wounded; no one rushed to the hospital & pronounced dead there; no one rushed to the hospital & reported "in critical condition" or "stable" or anything else. At Uvalde, "shot" = "dead". That is ... not normal.
The reason none of it adds up - because school officials, the police, the FBI, the Marshall's Service, and social media are all in CYA mode for their bumbling incompetence and cowardice.
Bottom line - an unemployed teenage psycho dropout with a junkie mother, absent father, and a pickup truck somehow managed to secure 8 grand to subsidize a mass shooting, and broadcast his intent. He also passed a background check when buying the firearms.
The "gun lobby", the NRA, and law-abing gun owners had absolutely nothing to do with any of it.
There are so many pertinent questions, presently without answers, that must be resolved before this matter can be understood. This incident is very much more than a simple statement of, "Kid buys guns, kid kills kids, kid get killed." First, the starting point is the issue of "instrumentality." 1.) The myriad questions surrounding the question, "Why did he decide that he must kill elementary-aged children, in mass?" 2.) Having no overt employment to provide a substantial source of savings, where did the funds come from; issue a search warrant for bank account(s). 3.) Determine his overt & covert employment or affiliations with sources of income. This one point would establish a substantial workload for any investigator(s). If there was no overt employment, what were his covert employment opportunities? Was he in the illegal drug trade? Cartel? Drug mule? Street sales? Deliveries of product from cartels to lower-level gangs, or gang to gang? Product transport in Grannies' truck? (His cellphone/online friends may know.) OR was he involved in Human Trafficking? (Obvious question based on his lack of humanity and compassion for children.). ETC., almost to infinity. 3.) Once the question of employment/funds is established then (Most likely simultaneously.) the questions concerning his accumulation of cash and then equipment must be answered. It should not be assumed that he paid for the weapons with his own funds, his own debit card or own credit card (CC is doubtful due to lack of provable employment.). It must be established that he used only his own funds and that no other party was involved, i.e., he did not use another's debit/CC card. I would not be surprised to find that he either had no funds in the bank, or just before the weapons purchase, he deposited a large amount of cash he had been accumulating/hiding, or was given, which opens a door that would probably provide few answers since the door would lead to a room full of secrets/conspiracies (Of course conspiracies are relegated to the tinfoil hat brigade.).
I am merely trying to show some of the starting-point questions that will need (must) to be answered --- and each question & answer will create more if a thorough investigation is desired --- to just get us to the point of understanding "How did the weapons, the ammunition, the variety of equipment get into his hands and did he have assistance." Of course, other investigators would be pursuing issues surrounding, individuals, his friends, his associates, the grandmother, the mother and her bizarre statement, where's the father, grandfather, etc., etc., etc. At this point the investigation, again, if the authorities desire a fully document account of the Who, What, Where, When & How, questions surrounding the incident, is only at the very beginning with no visible ending point in site. But I am going to assume that no LE entity is going to dedicate the resources needed to fully conduct an complete investigation, and why would they, you are probably thinking? It must be determined if others provided any assistance, guidance or influence. I immediately see two obvious questions and will then end this summary: Who propped open the door, and was he in any manner influenced by anyone (A conspiracy.) to target the school and the innocent children? Yes, schools are soft targets but why do these insane individuals determine that children must be slaughtered, almost sacrificially? We cannot ask the deceased shooter, which appears very convenient, "Were you influenced or encouraged by another human being to commit this atrocity or was there a demonic influence?
Sadly, in the end, this incident is probably going to be left as a simple matter of "Kid buys guns, kid kills kids, kid get killed."
I apologize for getting carried-away. I am closing by saying that I felt that CannCon provided a solid summary of the timeline, that does have puzzling aspects to it, and I was wondering, not knowing your age, if possibly your ultimate calling should not be in LE. However, one individual working as an independent investigative journalist, could make great contributions to society as a whole. But how you make a living pursuing that calling is something I have no understanding of. I will close with an encouraging good luck to you CannCon, you have a good mind that you should exercise and share. My best regards to you. (I spent little time in editing, so please excuse any grammatical errors or confusing passages. As we age we become lazy.)
This was an excellent comment! I try to read them all (on all platforms). There are a lot of questions...some are starting to get answered. Ali Bradley (Youtube and Facebook) sat down with the grandfather of Ramos. He had some good insights. The truck was the grandma's and Ramos did not have a license. He was not on drugs. He quit his job at Wendy's a month ago or so and was helping him with HVAC work at his company. He slept on the floor for a week or so at a time because his mom, down the street, had some random guy staying around that seems like a drug dealer turned boyfriend?
Thanks for the encouragement! I was a US Marine and wanted to be a cop, but decided to go into this instead. You can find more of my work at CannCon.Locals.com and Rumble.com/CannCon.